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End College Sports Indentured Servitude: Pay "Student Athletes"

Seeded on Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:29 AM EST
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Even as universities make money exploiting the names and images of students, “the NCAA calls it heinous exploitation to pay college athletes a fair portion of what they earn, noted author Branch in the Atlantic. Everyone except the “student-athletes” have their hands in the till. Yet “The whole edifice depends on the players’ willingness to perform what is effectively volunteer work,” observed Branch.

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Robert in Ohio

C C

This argument has certainly been around for a while and it is easy to see both sides of the argument.

If the athletes were paid a stipend for their "services", would they then pay the $20K to $50K per year that their education costs, if injured would they be eligible for WC and no longer be part of the university or continue to get an education?

Would these athletes sign contracts whereby they would stay in college for four years, to provide maximum ROI for the universities paying them?

Would the professional leagues enter into a contractual relationship with the universities so that no player would be drafted prior to the graduation date of his original college class?

If all of the changes are in effect then I think a stipend is certainly in order for the athletes.

Thanks for the article.

Very interesting

    Reply#1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:52 AM EST
    Conservative Conspirator

    If an 18 year old sold his services to the University for any other service, say IT work, his pay would not be limited and it would be negotiable.

      #1.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:57 AM EST
      Robert in Ohio

      C C

      And if he became unable to provide the service he was contracted for, he would be let go without fanfare or severance and his education would not be free.

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      #1.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:41 PM EST
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      SCTexan

      One big issue is who and how much: do you pay all athletes the same regardless of the sport. What about the sports that today are not allowed to give the entire team a scholarship (like baseball, they have 11.25 scholarships for 25 people)? What about walk ons? What about the athletes who do not have any scholarships? We have to remember that except for football and for some schools basketball programs, very few athletic programs can even pay their own bills. Do we just eliminate all sports that can't cover the cost of the program and the stipend?

        Reply#2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:25 AM EST
        Conservative Conspirator

        One big issue is who and how much: do you pay all athletes the same regardless of the sport.

        How about it being negotiable?

          #2.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:58 AM EST
          SCTexan

          How about it being negotiable?

          Then the schools with the largest booster club will be able to buy the best players.

            #2.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:55 PM EST
            Conservative Conspirator

            Why should an adult be denied the freedom to negotiate salary?

              #2.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:59 PM EST
              SCTexan

              They can, wait and go pro or play amateur or Canadian until their 3 year wait is up for the NFL. But then if enough wanted to buy pass college, then the three year wait would go away.

                #2.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:18 PM EST
                Conservative Conspirator

                Tex,

                How about a limit-- stipends can not exceed $10,000. That works out to be about $300 per school week. Many of these players come from poor backgrounds, and they can help Mama with the rent.

                  #2.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:21 PM EST
                  SCTexan

                  I'm not against it, I'm concerned about the application. I'd just hate to see the big schools to have another advantage. I'd bet that at least half of D1 schools can't afford to get $300 to all it athletes. Especially when you look at the full lineup of programs at the school.

                    #2.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:29 PM EST
                    Conservative Conspirator

                    I'm not suggesting that all athletes get the $10K. That would be the maximum and just a few athletes would get it. I think it's ridiculous that an athlete can get into trouble for accepting a slice of pizza.

                      #2.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:57 PM EST
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                      Brad-436809

                      How about removing athletics from what is suppose to be institutions of higher learning? Colleges should not be farm leagues for professional sports. I know what I am suggesting is heresy in many people's eyes, but look at MLB. They have a minor league and the only requirement to make it into the big league is talent.

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                      Reply#3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:53 PM EST
                      SCTexan

                      I seem to remember some trying to start such a league but since they couldn't attract enough good players they keep folding.

                        #3.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:19 PM EST
                        Conservative Conspirator

                        Brad,

                        I like collegiate sports as part of the college experience--I just want athletes not to be exploited.

                          #3.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:25 PM EST
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                          Baron Brian

                          IMO, in some schools it looks like everyone's getting rich except the players---even though they're doing a lot of the "heavy lifting" in generating the big bucks.

                          For example, at University of Maryland College Park, the star basketball coach (Gary Williams) was being paid $12 million per year. If memory serves, he got a nice raise (to $12 million) on an already hefty salary after the Terps went all the way to the championships---but admittedly, I'm hazy on ALL the details because (1) it's been a year or more and (2) I'd MUCH rather watch UFC than college basketball.

                          Penn State's football program is a $70 million per year cash cow. I'm sure that the late Joe Paterno was similarly well compensated. In both cases (Williams and Paterno), it's not like they were suiting up, hitting the field (or the court) and actually winning games---and the championships that cause the big donations to roll in.

                          The players do that. It doesn't happen without them---there's no reason why they shouldn't share in the "loot." I'm not suggesting that college athletes should be paid $12 million per year but they should get a fair compensation based on the "worth" of their program to the school's bottom line---and yeah, that probably means that the football and basketball players would make more than the soccer players and the wrestling team, and the men would make more than the women.

                          And, in any case, what happens if one of these kids is seriously and permanently injured...?

                          Pay 'em, I say. College athletes have been exploited long enough.

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